Servers wont talk to me!

Yep to correct IP.

···

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net > wrote:

To the correct ip of the ciphermail server? Obviously something is wrong
with the spf or dns or both.

I can't help much be because you are not providing real data.

-----Original Message-----
*From:* Paul Bronson [signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
*Received:* Tuesday, 27 Jun 2017, 4:03PM
*To:* Dino Edwards [dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net]
*CC:* Martijn Brinkers [martijn(a)ciphermail.com]; users(a)lists.djigzo.com [
users(a)lists.djigzo.com]
*Subject:* Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Yep...

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Dino Edwards < > dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net> wrote:

Is the hostname ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com resolvable to
the outside world?

*From:* Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:50 PM
*To:* Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
*Cc:* Martijn Brinkers <martijn(a)ciphermail.com>; users(a)lists.djigzo.com
*Subject:* Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Yes, I seen this too, but here is the SFP for that domain:

v=spf1 include:ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com include:
mail.themailserver.com -all

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Dino Edwards < >> dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net> wrote:

It’s not ideal but here’s what I noticed right away:

spf=permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing during lookup
of copier(a)themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com not
found)

your SPF record doesn’t seem to be correct.

*From:* Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:42 PM
*To:* Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>; Martijn Brinkers <
martijn(a)ciphermail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

I sent a test to my gmail account. I blocked out some items if you don't
mind. Mail-gateway is the ciphermail server. Also FYI SFP records are
perfect, one of the first things I checked.

Legend:

paul(a)personalgmail.com = My personal gmail account

copier(a)themailserver.com = A user on the email server (before it gets
sent via relayhost to cipermail server)

100.100.100.100 = ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com

Delivered-To: paul(a)personalgmail.com

Received: by 10.100.151.131 with SMTP id q3csp1477339pja;

        Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT)

X-Received: by 10.237.38.33 with SMTP id z30mr8715902qtc.105.1498591976
746;

        Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT)

ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1498591976; cv=none;

        d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;

        b=zq9YrJUK0t+9/MMkruGu502L4/BxtDFW3DttYouYFgmW2An7l1l3wOZRQN
6FduWhN

         gkawirHqLKlmosfryJucbJ7cSrCK1tPCgHMKlaXOSMsqqkIdoRO+MSZG7lK
cgpL7Rd4j

         tGBmHMPIUUZPOZEQ7Oaki/aI8sHpBGIDOb5Zw9pehSvMcaco6oMlp0rdyJm
bCodc0zyT

         G/CYFQr6p52Lqs0P+tD8ilc3ZmaOri9G1IUXiuZd8Q3NhcBt6GMMwTTkaqu
X8zToK5ro

         pbV4hF8+/gOQ+EL7BL+2E5bm6eKI59mpOO/Z69CL+5IdDSKL08epKpvuIJI
mNu3JyCdu

         4OpA==

ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com;
s=arc-20160816;

        h=message-id:subject:to:from:date:mime-version

         :arc-authentication-results;

        bh=RN/cksYKtaXvjBrTUO3AW31Lt1j87Lg7nLF7Ukwy8A=;

        b=dXvmLVykUUUxaILtavAfHuX114RQlg9kvUYSTwHSShNcG5yZWWolCjpjip
fdfEow11

         IppD7AfdK64VBE6zHj8pkg9XJSzJdb1c/E/ct0rRegSrFDANr/NhO2uGbvD
zFdyxnBYf

         28mYhWcZ7S3+5f2kNviw2/Ia0+hOPEuMZ3+JZr8vmcw0pFeuz82ZllxOYhd
J2XCAsBzD

         nBx30P7ST3GUbRHI5PkOytE4YOCziHWqPbUP4U1JJP+1IS3HCNB7XK25uMH
d8aJMD68G

         H+SquXOBfMLs6EjTE9fXNW4ZRmToww9xvJoBy6Kki8zVlKSdEmDDNJGj3J9
wTi8QRSsb

         B3HA==

ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;

       spf=permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing during
lookup of copier(a)themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermails
erver.com not found) smtp.mailfrom=copier(a)themailserver.com

Return-Path: <copier(a)themailserver.com>

Received: from ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com (
ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com. [100.100.100.100])

        by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s4si84193qki.253.2017.06.27.12
.32.56

        for <paul(a)personalgmail.com>;

        Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT)

Received-SPF: permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing
during lookup of copier(a)themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermails
erver.com not found) client-ip=100.100.100.100;

Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;

       spf=permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing during
lookup of copier(a)themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermails
erver.com not found) smtp.mailfrom=copier(a)themailserver.com

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_39b41678131c459a9e
029ec3c1356561"

Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:33:02 -0400

From: Email Server User <copier(a)themailserver.com>

To: paul(a)personalgmail.com

Subject: TEST FOR LIST FROM SERVER

Message-ID: <ce5baa86f628f249db3fa3f7fb28b0de(a)themailserver.com>

--=_39b41678131c459a9e029ec3c1356561

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

TEST

--=_39b41678131c459a9e029ec3c1356561

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html;
charset=

=3DUTF-8" /></head><body style=3D'font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Verdana,Gen=

eva,sans-serif'>

<p>TEST</p>

</body></html>

--=_39b41678131c459a9e029ec3c1356561--

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Dino Edwards < >> dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net> wrote:

I’m not sure what the concern is. You are simply sending me an email.
Just trying to help. If you don’t feel comfortable doing it then that’s
fine, but I can’t look at the logs to see what’s happening if anything.

*From:* Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:13 PM
*To:* Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>

*Subject:* Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Dino,

Any way to do it without sending across the internet. I am not super
comfortable to sending across to people I do not know... Can I send to
myself then black out info and send to you?

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com> wrote:

Can you send me an email through your ciphermail gateway directly. Our
server is pretty locked down so if there is a problem, it may show up. That
Microsoft error is very misleading

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:52 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Correct. Microsoft states no issues.. Here's what I sent Martijn.

We have a postfix server (plesk) that sends emails to cipher mail. So
someone in plesk sends an email lets say joe(a)apple.com<mailto:joe(a)apple
.com> is sending an email out to susi(a)banana.com<mailto:susi(a)banana.com>.
Our plesk server hosts the @apple.com<http://apple.com/&gt; domain. In
postfix on the plesk server, we have it setup with:

relayhost = (cipermailserver IP)

Mail then gets sent over to the ciphermail server. Ciphermail has the IP
of the plesk mail server setup as "my networks". And then it goes out from
there and just encrypts based on [encrypt] subject.

There are a few domains hosted on the plesk server that would route
through the cipermail server.

MTA Config:

https://cl.ly/1Q2o312u073q

Global:

https://cl.ly/1U08092o1A1y

So my issue is anytime I email out to anyone on Officer 365, I get this
code:

https://cl.ly/312x3c2N2c0s

SFP records include both the plesk email server and ciphermail server,
MXtoolbox shows 100% green, sending reputation is perfect.

Hopefully this helps some..

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
But when you send to other recipients who are not on Office 365, it’s no
problem?

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:37 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Correct!

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>> wrote:
So, email goes from your email server to ciphermail box out to its final
destination. But when you send email out to Office 365 recipient you are
getting 550 Mailbox Unavailable messages? Or am I misunderstanding what’s
happening?

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:49 AM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>>; Martijn Brinkers <
martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com><mailto:
martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com>>>
Cc: users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Here is snippet:

https://cl.ly/3w3Q2U1l1N32

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>>> wrote:
Dino/Matijn,

I am getting a lot of 550 Mailbox Unavailable for people who are using
microsoft 365. It happened as soon as we turned on the cipher mail server.
Everythins is good via mxtoolbox (all green checkmarks) but not sure why we
keep getthing this message. If I turn off cipher mail and just go from
email server to outlook 365 it goes through fine.

Any ideas?

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>>> wrote:
DIno,

Thanks for all your help! Can you post the complete apache config file?
Also I think the paths are wrong (?) Mine is
https://x.x.x.x:8443/ciphermail is the main admin page.. I wanted to
change the main portal page to something else so I could block port access
to 8443 on the firewall

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote:
There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help with
that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a much
more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat. Tomcat
is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs.

My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing
the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front
of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using
the default config.

Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:sign
aldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwards@
mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users <
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@
lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user
s(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use
rs(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>>> wrote:
The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf><
http://main.cf><http://main.cf> should get you started for TLS:

# TLS parameters
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes
bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if
you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp
module in Apache and setup an apache config like below:

ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyTimeout 3600

Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use
443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate.
I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post
the relevant parts.

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signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:sign
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signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>>>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:42 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwards@
mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>><
mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.
edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>>>>
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users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
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users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.
djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com
<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this
server isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface
for this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf><
http://main.cf><http://main.cf><http://main.cf> file manually?

Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443
do I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dino Edwards via Users <
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@
lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user
s(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use
rs(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@
lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user
s(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use
rs(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>>>> wrote:
I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something
else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number
if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case.

Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever hostname
you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by the
outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume) is
configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be
https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings -->
portal

è Base URL you set it as follows:

https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/

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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:13 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwards@
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd.

I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the
HELO name I meant, sorry.

Paul

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You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended.

Different site, meaning different server?

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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also.

For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need
both?

I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the
hostname.

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> On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:
> > Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong.
> >
> > http://imgur.com/a/k0ysM
> > http://imgur.com/a/QuyaO
> > http://imgur.com/a/9pNyl
> >
> > I have the IP listed in my networks.
> >
> > So my setup goes like this:
> >
> > Incoming email >> firewall >> email server
> >
> > Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is:
> >
> > Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >>
> internet
> >
> > For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM
> > server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so
> > it will
> forward
> > all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my
> > server
> is
> > "external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should
> > only
> be
> > sending mail off from our internal mail server.
> >
> > I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a
> > lot
> of
> > bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but
> > I
> want
> > to make sure the server is setup properly.
> >
> > The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you!
> >
> > Everything is inherited from global also.
>
> Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is
> handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for
> delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check
> the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the
> recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be
> dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name
> for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP
> helo name. your IP might be black-listed.
>
> Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global
> settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is
> the MTA helo name.
>
> Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered?
>
> What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Martijn Brinkers
>
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Perhaps the DNS entries are not updated (changing DNS might take a while
until all DNS servers are updated).

I agree with Dino, if you do not provide us with the real data (IP,
domain etc.) there is nothing more we can do.

Kind regards,

Martijn Brinkers

···

On 06/27/2017 10:48 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:

Yep to correct IP.

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net >> wrote:

To the correct ip of the ciphermail server? Obviously something is wrong
with the spf or dns or both.

I can't help much be because you are not providing real data.

-----Original Message-----
*From:* Paul Bronson [signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
*Received:* Tuesday, 27 Jun 2017, 4:03PM
*To:* Dino Edwards [dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net]
*CC:* Martijn Brinkers [martijn(a)ciphermail.com]; users(a)lists.djigzo.com [
users(a)lists.djigzo.com]
*Subject:* Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Yep...

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Dino Edwards < >> dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net> wrote:

Is the hostname ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com resolvable to
the outside world?

*From:* Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:50 PM
*To:* Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
*Cc:* Martijn Brinkers <martijn(a)ciphermail.com>; users(a)lists.djigzo.com
*Subject:* Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Yes, I seen this too, but here is the SFP for that domain:

v=spf1 include:ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com include:
mail.themailserver.com -all

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Dino Edwards < >>> dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net> wrote:

It’s not ideal but here’s what I noticed right away:

spf=permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing during lookup
of copier(a)themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com not
found)

your SPF record doesn’t seem to be correct.

*From:* Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:42 PM
*To:* Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>; Martijn Brinkers <
martijn(a)ciphermail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

I sent a test to my gmail account. I blocked out some items if you don't
mind. Mail-gateway is the ciphermail server. Also FYI SFP records are
perfect, one of the first things I checked.

Legend:

paul(a)personalgmail.com = My personal gmail account

copier(a)themailserver.com = A user on the email server (before it gets
sent via relayhost to cipermail server)

100.100.100.100 = ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com

Delivered-To: paul(a)personalgmail.com

Received: by 10.100.151.131 with SMTP id q3csp1477339pja;

        Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT)

X-Received: by 10.237.38.33 with SMTP id z30mr8715902qtc.105.1498591976
746;

        Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT)

ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1498591976; cv=none;

        d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;

        b=zq9YrJUK0t+9/MMkruGu502L4/BxtDFW3DttYouYFgmW2An7l1l3wOZRQN
6FduWhN

         gkawirHqLKlmosfryJucbJ7cSrCK1tPCgHMKlaXOSMsqqkIdoRO+MSZG7lK
cgpL7Rd4j

         tGBmHMPIUUZPOZEQ7Oaki/aI8sHpBGIDOb5Zw9pehSvMcaco6oMlp0rdyJm
bCodc0zyT

         G/CYFQr6p52Lqs0P+tD8ilc3ZmaOri9G1IUXiuZd8Q3NhcBt6GMMwTTkaqu
X8zToK5ro

         pbV4hF8+/gOQ+EL7BL+2E5bm6eKI59mpOO/Z69CL+5IdDSKL08epKpvuIJI
mNu3JyCdu

         4OpA==

ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com;
s=arc-20160816;

        h=message-id:subject:to:from:date:mime-version

         :arc-authentication-results;

        bh=RN/cksYKtaXvjBrTUO3AW31Lt1j87Lg7nLF7Ukwy8A=;

        b=dXvmLVykUUUxaILtavAfHuX114RQlg9kvUYSTwHSShNcG5yZWWolCjpjip
fdfEow11

         IppD7AfdK64VBE6zHj8pkg9XJSzJdb1c/E/ct0rRegSrFDANr/NhO2uGbvD
zFdyxnBYf

         28mYhWcZ7S3+5f2kNviw2/Ia0+hOPEuMZ3+JZr8vmcw0pFeuz82ZllxOYhd
J2XCAsBzD

         nBx30P7ST3GUbRHI5PkOytE4YOCziHWqPbUP4U1JJP+1IS3HCNB7XK25uMH
d8aJMD68G

         H+SquXOBfMLs6EjTE9fXNW4ZRmToww9xvJoBy6Kki8zVlKSdEmDDNJGj3J9
wTi8QRSsb

         B3HA==

ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;

       spf=permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing during
lookup of copier(a)themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermails
erver.com not found) smtp.mailfrom=copier(a)themailserver.com

Return-Path: <copier(a)themailserver.com>

Received: from ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com (
ciphermail-gateway.ciphermailserver.com. [100.100.100.100])

        by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s4si84193qki.253.2017.06.27.12
.32.56

        for <paul(a)personalgmail.com>;

        Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT)

Received-SPF: permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing
during lookup of copier(a)themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermails
erver.com not found) client-ip=100.100.100.100;

Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;

       spf=permerror (google.com: permanent error in processing during
lookup of copier(a)themailserver.com: ciphermail-gateway.ciphermails
erver.com not found) smtp.mailfrom=copier(a)themailserver.com

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_39b41678131c459a9e
029ec3c1356561"

Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:33:02 -0400

From: Email Server User <copier(a)themailserver.com>

To: paul(a)personalgmail.com

Subject: TEST FOR LIST FROM SERVER

Message-ID: <ce5baa86f628f249db3fa3f7fb28b0de(a)themailserver.com>

--=_39b41678131c459a9e029ec3c1356561

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

TEST

--=_39b41678131c459a9e029ec3c1356561

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html;
charset=

=3DUTF-8" /></head><body style=3D'font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Verdana,Gen=

eva,sans-serif'>

<p>TEST</p>

</body></html>

--=_39b41678131c459a9e029ec3c1356561--

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Dino Edwards < >>> dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net> wrote:

I’m not sure what the concern is. You are simply sending me an email.
Just trying to help. If you don’t feel comfortable doing it then that’s
fine, but I can’t look at the logs to see what’s happening if anything.

*From:* Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:13 PM
*To:* Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>

*Subject:* Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Dino,

Any way to do it without sending across the internet. I am not super
comfortable to sending across to people I do not know... Can I send to
myself then black out info and send to you?

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com> wrote:

Can you send me an email through your ciphermail gateway directly. Our
server is pretty locked down so if there is a problem, it may show up. That
Microsoft error is very misleading

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:52 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Correct. Microsoft states no issues.. Here's what I sent Martijn.

We have a postfix server (plesk) that sends emails to cipher mail. So
someone in plesk sends an email lets say joe(a)apple.com<mailto:joe(a)apple
.com> is sending an email out to susi(a)banana.com<mailto:susi(a)banana.com>.
Our plesk server hosts the @apple.com<http://apple.com/&gt; domain. In
postfix on the plesk server, we have it setup with:

relayhost = (cipermailserver IP)

Mail then gets sent over to the ciphermail server. Ciphermail has the IP
of the plesk mail server setup as "my networks". And then it goes out from
there and just encrypts based on [encrypt] subject.

There are a few domains hosted on the plesk server that would route
through the cipermail server.

MTA Config:

https://cl.ly/1Q2o312u073q

Global:

https://cl.ly/1U08092o1A1y

So my issue is anytime I email out to anyone on Officer 365, I get this
code:

https://cl.ly/312x3c2N2c0s

SFP records include both the plesk email server and ciphermail server,
MXtoolbox shows 100% green, sending reputation is perfect.

Hopefully this helps some..

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
But when you send to other recipients who are not on Office 365, it’s no
problem?

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:37 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Correct!

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>> wrote:
So, email goes from your email server to ciphermail box out to its final
destination. But when you send email out to Office 365 recipient you are
getting 550 Mailbox Unavailable messages? Or am I misunderstanding what’s
happening?

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:49 AM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>>; Martijn Brinkers <
martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com><mailto:
martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com>>>
Cc: users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Here is snippet:

https://cl.ly/3w3Q2U1l1N32

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>>> wrote:
Dino/Matijn,

I am getting a lot of 550 Mailbox Unavailable for people who are using
microsoft 365. It happened as soon as we turned on the cipher mail server.
Everythins is good via mxtoolbox (all green checkmarks) but not sure why we
keep getthing this message. If I turn off cipher mail and just go from
email server to outlook 365 it goes through fine.

Any ideas?

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>>> wrote:
DIno,

Thanks for all your help! Can you post the complete apache config file?
Also I think the paths are wrong (?) Mine is
https://x.x.x.x:8443/ciphermail is the main admin page.. I wanted to
change the main portal page to something else so I could block port access
to 8443 on the firewall

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Dino Edwards via Users < >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote:
There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help with
that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a much
more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat. Tomcat
is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs.

My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing
the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front
of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using
the default config.

Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:sign
aldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>><mailto:dino.edwards@
mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users <
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto:
users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users@
lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:user
s(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:use
rs(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>>> wrote:
The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf><
http://main.cf><http://main.cf> should get you started for TLS:

# TLS parameters
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes
bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if
you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp
module in Apache and setup an apache config like below:

ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyTimeout 3600

Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use
443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate.
I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post
the relevant parts.

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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this
server isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface
for this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf><
http://main.cf><http://main.cf><http://main.cf> file manually?

Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443
do I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself?

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rs(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>>>> wrote:
I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something
else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number
if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case.

Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever hostname
you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by the
outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume) is
configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be
https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings -->
portal

è Base URL you set it as follows:

https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/

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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd.

I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the
HELO name I meant, sorry.

Paul

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You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended.

Different site, meaning different server?

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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also.

For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need
both?

I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the
hostname.

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On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:

Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong.

http://imgur.com/a/k0ysM
http://imgur.com/a/QuyaO
http://imgur.com/a/9pNyl

I have the IP listed in my networks.

So my setup goes like this:

Incoming email >> firewall >> email server

Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is:

Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >>

internet

For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM
server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so
it will

forward

all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my
server

is

"external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should
only

be

sending mail off from our internal mail server.

I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a
lot

of

bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but
I

want

to make sure the server is setup properly.

The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you!

Everything is inherited from global also.

Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is
handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for
delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check
the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the
recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be
dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name
for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP
helo name. your IP might be black-listed.

Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global
settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is
the MTA helo name.

Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered?

What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using?

Kind regards,

Martijn Brinkers

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