Can you send me an email through your ciphermail gateway directly. Our server is pretty locked down so if there is a problem, it may show up. That Microsoft error is very misleading
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From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:52 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!
Correct. Microsoft states no issues.. Here's what I sent Martijn.
We have a postfix server (plesk) that sends emails to cipher mail. So someone in plesk sends an email lets say joe(a)apple.com<mailto:joe(a)apple.com> is sending an email out to susi(a)banana.com<mailto:susi(a)banana.com>. Our plesk server hosts the @apple.com<http://apple.com/> domain. In postfix on the plesk server, we have it setup with:
relayhost = (cipermailserver IP)
Mail then gets sent over to the ciphermail server. Ciphermail has the IP of the plesk mail server setup as "my networks". And then it goes out from there and just encrypts based on [encrypt] subject.
There are a few domains hosted on the plesk server that would route through the cipermail server.
MTA Config:
Global:
So my issue is anytime I email out to anyone on Officer 365, I get this code:
SFP records include both the plesk email server and ciphermail server, MXtoolbox shows 100% green, sending reputation is perfect.
Hopefully this helps some..
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But when you send to other recipients who are not on Office 365, it’s no problem?
From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!
Correct!
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So, email goes from your email server to ciphermail box out to its final destination. But when you send email out to Office 365 recipient you are getting 550 Mailbox Unavailable messages? Or am I misunderstanding what’s happening?
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Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!
Here is snippet:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>> wrote:
Dino/Matijn,
I am getting a lot of 550 Mailbox Unavailable for people who are using microsoft 365. It happened as soon as we turned on the cipher mail server. Everythins is good via mxtoolbox (all green checkmarks) but not sure why we keep getthing this message. If I turn off cipher mail and just go from email server to outlook 365 it goes through fine.
Any ideas?
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>> wrote:
DIno,
Thanks for all your help! Can you post the complete apache config file? Also I think the paths are wrong (?) Mine is https://x.x.x.x:8443/ciphermail is the main admin page.. I wanted to change the main portal page to something else so I could block port access to 8443 on the firewall
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There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help with that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a much more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat. Tomcat is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs.
My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using the default config.
Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed.
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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!
I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat?
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users <users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote:
The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf><http://main.cf><http://main.cf> should get you started for TLS:
# TLS parameters
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1
I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp module in Apache and setup an apache config like below:
ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyTimeout 3600
Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use 443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate. I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post the relevant parts.
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!
Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this server isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface for this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf><http://main.cf><http://main.cf><http://main.cf> file manually?
Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443 do I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself?
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dino Edwards via Users <users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>>> wrote:
I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case.
Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever hostname you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by the outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume) is configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings --> portal
è Base URL you set it as follows:
https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/
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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!
Hi Dino,
Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd.
I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the HELO name I meant, sorry.
Paul
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You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended.
Different site, meaning different server?
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!
IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also.
For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need both?
I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the hostname.
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On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:
> Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong.
>
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
>
> I have the IP listed in my networks.
>
> So my setup goes like this:
>
> Incoming email >> firewall >> email server
>
> Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is:
>
> Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >>
internet
>
> For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM
> server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so
> it will
forward
> all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my
> server
is
> "external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should
> only
be
> sending mail off from our internal mail server.
>
> I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a
> lot
of
> bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but
> I
want
> to make sure the server is setup properly.
>
> The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you!
>
> Everything is inherited from global also.Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is
handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for
delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check
the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the
recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be
dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name
for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP
helo name. your IP might be black-listed.Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global
settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is
the MTA helo name.Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered?
What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using?
Kind regards,
Martijn Brinkers
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