Servers wont talk to me!

There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help with that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a much more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat. Tomcat is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs.

My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using the default config.

Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed.

···

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users <users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf> should get you started for TLS:

# TLS parameters
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp module in Apache and setup an apache config like below:

ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyTimeout 3600

Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use 443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate. I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post the relevant parts.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:42 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>
Cc: users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this server isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface for this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf> file manually?

Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443 do I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dino Edwards via Users <users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case.

Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever hostname you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by the outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume) is configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings --> portal

è Base URL you set it as follows:

https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:13 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd.

I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the HELO name I meant, sorry.

Paul

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You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended.

Different site, meaning different server?

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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 1:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also.

For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need both?

I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the hostname.
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Martijn Brinkers via Users < users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>> wrote:

On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:
> Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong.
>
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
>
> I have the IP listed in my networks.
>
> So my setup goes like this:
>
> Incoming email >> firewall >> email server
>
> Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is:
>
> Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >>
internet
>
> For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM
> server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so
> it will
forward
> all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my
> server
is
> "external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should
> only
be
> sending mail off from our internal mail server.
>
> I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a
> lot
of
> bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but
> I
want
> to make sure the server is setup properly.
>
> The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you!
>
> Everything is inherited from global also.

Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is
handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for
delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check
the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the
recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be
dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name
for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP
helo name. your IP might be black-listed.

Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global
settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is
the MTA helo name.

Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered?

What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using?

Kind regards,

Martijn Brinkers

--
CipherMail email encryption

Email encryption with support for S/MIME, OpenPGP, PDF encryption and
secure webmail pull.

https://www.ciphermail.com

Twitter: http://twitter.com/CipherMail
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DIno,

Thanks for all your help! Can you post the complete apache config file?
Also I think the paths are wrong (?) Mine is https://x.x.x.x:8443/ciphermail
is the main admin page.. I wanted to change the main portal page to
something else so I could block port access to 8443 on the firewall

···

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Dino Edwards via Users < users(a)lists.djigzo.com> wrote:

There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help with
that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a much
more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat. Tomcat
is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs.

My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing
the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front
of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using
the default config.

Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < > users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf> should get you started
for TLS:

# TLS parameters
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes
bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if
you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp
module in Apache and setup an apache config like below:

ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyTimeout 3600

Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use
443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate.
I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post
the relevant parts.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:42 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards@
mydirectmail.net>>
Cc: users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this server
isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface for
this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf> file
manually?

Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443 do
I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < > users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: > users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>> wrote:
I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something
else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number
if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case.

Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever hostname
you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by the
outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume) is
configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be
https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings --> portal

è Base URL you set it as follows:

https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:13 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards@
mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>>
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users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd.

I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the
HELO name I meant, sorry.

Paul

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < > users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: > users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: > users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists. > djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote:
You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended.

Different site, meaning different server?

-----Original Message-----
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bounces(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users-bounces(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:
users-bounces(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto:users-bounces(a)lists.djigzo.com
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djigzo.com<mailto:users-bounces(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>] On Behalf Of Paul
Bronson via Users
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 1:57 PM
To: Martijn Brinkers <martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com
><mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com><mailto:
martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com><mailto:martijn@
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djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also.

For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need
both?

I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the
hostname.
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Martijn Brinkers via Users < > users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: > users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: > users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists. > djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote:

> On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:
> > Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong.
> >
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> >
> > I have the IP listed in my networks.
> >
> > So my setup goes like this:
> >
> > Incoming email >> firewall >> email server
> >
> > Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is:
> >
> > Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >>
> internet
> >
> > For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM
> > server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so
> > it will
> forward
> > all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my
> > server
> is
> > "external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should
> > only
> be
> > sending mail off from our internal mail server.
> >
> > I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a
> > lot
> of
> > bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but
> > I
> want
> > to make sure the server is setup properly.
> >
> > The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you!
> >
> > Everything is inherited from global also.
>
> Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is
> handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for
> delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check
> the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the
> recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be
> dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name
> for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP
> helo name. your IP might be black-listed.
>
> Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global
> settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is
> the MTA helo name.
>
> Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered?
>
> What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Martijn Brinkers
>
>
> --
> CipherMail email encryption
>
> Email encryption with support for S/MIME, OpenPGP, PDF encryption and
> secure webmail pull.
>
> https://www.ciphermail.com
>
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/CipherMail
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Dino/Matijn,

I am getting a lot of 550 Mailbox Unavailable for people who are using
microsoft 365. It happened as soon as we turned on the cipher mail server.
Everythins is good via mxtoolbox (all green checkmarks) but not sure why we
keep getthing this message. If I turn off cipher mail and just go from
email server to outlook 365 it goes through fine.

Any ideas?

···

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com> wrote:

DIno,

Thanks for all your help! Can you post the complete apache config file?
Also I think the paths are wrong (?) Mine is https://x.x.x.x:8443/
ciphermail is the main admin page.. I wanted to change the main portal
page to something else so I could block port access to 8443 on the firewall

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Dino Edwards via Users < > users(a)lists.djigzo.com> wrote:

There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help with
that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a much
more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat. Tomcat
is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs.

My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing
the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front
of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using
the default config.

Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf> should get you started
for TLS:

# TLS parameters
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes
bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if
you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp
module in Apache and setup an apache config like below:

ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyTimeout 3600

Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use
443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate.
I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post
the relevant parts.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:42 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>
Cc: users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this
server isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface
for this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf>
file manually?

Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443
do I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>> wrote:
I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something
else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number
if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case.

Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever hostname
you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by the
outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume) is
configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be
https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings -->
portal

è Base URL you set it as follows:

https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:13 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>>
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd.

I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the
HELO name I meant, sorry.

Paul

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote:
You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended.

Different site, meaning different server?

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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 1:57 PM
To: Martijn Brinkers <martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:
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martijn(a)ciphermail.com>><mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also.

For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need
both?

I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the
hostname.
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Martijn Brinkers via Users < >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote:

> On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:
> > Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong.
> >
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> >
> > I have the IP listed in my networks.
> >
> > So my setup goes like this:
> >
> > Incoming email >> firewall >> email server
> >
> > Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is:
> >
> > Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >>
> internet
> >
> > For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM
> > server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so
> > it will
> forward
> > all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my
> > server
> is
> > "external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should
> > only
> be
> > sending mail off from our internal mail server.
> >
> > I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a
> > lot
> of
> > bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but
> > I
> want
> > to make sure the server is setup properly.
> >
> > The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you!
> >
> > Everything is inherited from global also.
>
> Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is
> handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for
> delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check
> the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the
> recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be
> dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name
> for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP
> helo name. your IP might be black-listed.
>
> Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global
> settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is
> the MTA helo name.
>
> Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered?
>
> What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Martijn Brinkers
>
>
> --
> CipherMail email encryption
>
> Email encryption with support for S/MIME, OpenPGP, PDF encryption and
> secure webmail pull.
>
> https://www.ciphermail.com
>
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Here is snippet:

···

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Dino/Matijn,

I am getting a lot of 550 Mailbox Unavailable for people who are using
microsoft 365. It happened as soon as we turned on the cipher mail server.
Everythins is good via mxtoolbox (all green checkmarks) but not sure why we
keep getthing this message. If I turn off cipher mail and just go from
email server to outlook 365 it goes through fine.

Any ideas?

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com> > wrote:

DIno,

Thanks for all your help! Can you post the complete apache config file?
Also I think the paths are wrong (?) Mine is
https://x.x.x.x:8443/ciphermail is the main admin page.. I wanted to
change the main portal page to something else so I could block port access
to 8443 on the firewall

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Dino Edwards via Users < >> users(a)lists.djigzo.com> wrote:

There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help
with that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a
much more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat.
Tomcat is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs.

My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing
the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front
of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using
the default config.

Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf> should get you
started for TLS:

# TLS parameters
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes
bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if
you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp
module in Apache and setup an apache config like below:

ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyTimeout 3600

Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use
443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate.
I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post
the relevant parts.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:42 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>
Cc: users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this
server isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface
for this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf>
file manually?

Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443
do I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>> wrote:
I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something
else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number
if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case.

Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever
hostname you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by
the outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume)
is configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be
https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings -->
portal

è Base URL you set it as follows:

https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com><mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:
signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:13 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:
dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net
<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>>
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users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd.

I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the
HELO name I meant, sorry.

Paul

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dino Edwards via Users < >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote:
You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended.

Different site, meaning different server?

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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 1:57 PM
To: Martijn Brinkers <martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:
martijn(a)ciphermail.com><mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:
martijn(a)ciphermail.com>><mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:
martijn(a)ciphermail.com><mailto:martijn(a)ciphermail.com<mailto:
martijn(a)ciphermail.com>>>>
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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also.

For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need
both?

I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the
hostname.
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Martijn Brinkers via Users < >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto: >>> users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>>> wrote:

> On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:
> > Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong.
> >
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> >
> > I have the IP listed in my networks.
> >
> > So my setup goes like this:
> >
> > Incoming email >> firewall >> email server
> >
> > Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is:
> >
> > Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >>
> internet
> >
> > For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM
> > server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so
> > it will
> forward
> > all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my
> > server
> is
> > "external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should
> > only
> be
> > sending mail off from our internal mail server.
> >
> > I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a
> > lot
> of
> > bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but
> > I
> want
> > to make sure the server is setup properly.
> >
> > The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you!
> >
> > Everything is inherited from global also.
>
> Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is
> handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for
> delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check
> the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the
> recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be
> dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name
> for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP
> helo name. your IP might be black-listed.
>
> Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global
> settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is
> the MTA helo name.
>
> Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered?
>
> What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Martijn Brinkers
>
>
> --
> CipherMail email encryption
>
> Email encryption with support for S/MIME, OpenPGP, PDF encryption and
> secure webmail pull.
>
> https://www.ciphermail.com
>
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/CipherMail
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So, email goes from your email server to ciphermail box out to its final destination. But when you send email out to Office 365 recipient you are getting 550 Mailbox Unavailable messages? Or am I misunderstanding what’s happening?

···

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:49 AM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>; Martijn Brinkers <martijn(a)ciphermail.com>
Cc: users(a)lists.djigzo.com
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Here is snippet:

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>> wrote:
Dino/Matijn,

I am getting a lot of 550 Mailbox Unavailable for people who are using microsoft 365. It happened as soon as we turned on the cipher mail server. Everythins is good via mxtoolbox (all green checkmarks) but not sure why we keep getthing this message. If I turn off cipher mail and just go from email server to outlook 365 it goes through fine.

Any ideas?

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Paul Bronson <signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>> wrote:
DIno,

Thanks for all your help! Can you post the complete apache config file? Also I think the paths are wrong (?) Mine is https://x.x.x.x:8443/ciphermail is the main admin page.. I wanted to change the main portal page to something else so I could block port access to 8443 on the firewall

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Dino Edwards via Users <users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help with that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a much more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat. Tomcat is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs.

My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using the default config.

Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users <users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf> should get you started for TLS:

# TLS parameters
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp module in Apache and setup an apache config like below:

ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyTimeout 3600

Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use 443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate. I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post the relevant parts.

From: Paul Bronson [mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com<mailto:signaldeveloper(a)gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 2:42 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net<mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net><mailto:dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>>
Cc: users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this server isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface for this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf><http://main.cf> file manually?

Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443 do I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself?

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I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case.

Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever hostname you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by the outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume) is configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings --> portal

è Base URL you set it as follows:

https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/

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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd.

I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the HELO name I meant, sorry.

Paul

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You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended.

Different site, meaning different server?

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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also.

For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need both?

I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the hostname.
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On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:
> Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong.
>
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
>
> I have the IP listed in my networks.
>
> So my setup goes like this:
>
> Incoming email >> firewall >> email server
>
> Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is:
>
> Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >>
internet
>
> For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM
> server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so
> it will
forward
> all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my
> server
is
> "external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should
> only
be
> sending mail off from our internal mail server.
>
> I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a
> lot
of
> bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but
> I
want
> to make sure the server is setup properly.
>
> The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you!
>
> Everything is inherited from global also.

Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is
handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for
delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check
the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the
recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be
dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name
for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP
helo name. your IP might be black-listed.

Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global
settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is
the MTA helo name.

Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered?

What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using?

Kind regards,

Martijn Brinkers

--
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secure webmail pull.

https://www.ciphermail.com

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I just realized the apache config gets screwed up by the email client. I have attached it as a text instead

I had to disable https on tomcat by inserting the following line in the /etc/default/tomcat6 file because no matter what I did, Ciphermail would redirect to port 8443:

JAVA_OPTS="$JAVA_OPTS -Ddjigzo.https.all=false"

After you do that, Ciphermail should answer on either port 8080 or 8888 don't remember which right off the top of my head. I have mine configured for port 8888 but if your Tomcat is running on 8080 obviously adjust the ProxyPass lines below to your port number.

apache.conf.txt (714 Bytes)

···

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Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:25 AM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
Cc: users(a)lists.djigzo.com
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

DIno,

Thanks for all your help! Can you post the complete apache config file? Also I think the paths are wrong (?) Mine is https://x.x.x.x:8443/ciphermail is the main admin page.. I wanted to change the main portal page to something else so I could block port access to 8443 on the firewall

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Dino Edwards via Users <users(a)lists.djigzo.com> wrote:
There is certainly way to do it with Tomcat but I can’t really help with that, I’m not that familiar with it. I can tell you that Apache is a much more advanced http server with a lot more functionality than Tomcat. Tomcat is primarily designed to serve Java Servlets and JSPs.

My method is simpler I believe because it does not require you changing the configuration of Tomcat and ciphermail. You simply put Apache in front of it with the mod_proxy_ajp module which communicates with Tomcat using the default config.

Of course, it’s all up to you how you want to proceed.

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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Dino Edwards <dino.edwards(a)mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

I dont NEED to use apache, is there a way to do it with tomcat?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Dino Edwards via Users <users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>> wrote:
The following settings in main.cf<http://main.cf> should get you started for TLS:

# TLS parameters
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/cert.cer
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/certs/key.key
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/root.cer
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1

I misspoke earlier. It’s been so long since I did this. Ciphermail comes bundled with Tomcat and it runs on port 8888 if I’m not mistaking. So, if you want to utilize Apache instead, you have to install mod_proxy_ajp module in Apache and setup an apache config like below:

ProxyPass /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPassReverse /djigzo http://localhost:8888/djigzo
ProxyPass /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyPassReverse /web http://localhost:8888/web
ProxyTimeout 3600

Changing the port has to be done within apache. So, if you want to use 443, you must of course install mod_ssl on apache, as well as certificate. I have a complete Apache config file if you want, let me know and I’ll post the relevant parts.

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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Okay I will try that. I am also noticing that mxtoolbox states this server isn't configured for TLS? I do not see any settings under interface for this. Is this set on postfix main.cf<http://main.cf><http://main.cf> file manually?

Also if I wanted to remove the port or change the port to a default 443 do I need to do this within apache, or does the GUI do the config itself?

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I’m guessing sendmail got installed by accident or as part of something else. Not sure. I would either uninstall sendmail or change its port number if it’s absolutely necessary, although it doesn’t seem like that’s the case.

Since the Web GUI runs on a different port, you can set whatever hostname you want in ciphermail as long as that hostname is resolvable by the outside world and as long as the back-end webserver (apache I assume) is configured to answer on that port. So, if you want the web portal to be https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/ in ciphermail under settings --> portal

è Base URL you set it as follows:

https://webportal.domain.tld:8443/web/portal/

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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

Hi Dino,

Wonder why sendmail keeps trying to start then.. Odd.

I'd really like to set the web portal to a different address versus the HELO name I meant, sorry.

Paul

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You don't need both. One or the other, although Postfix is recommended.

Different site, meaning different server?

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Subject: Re: Servers wont talk to me!

IP Is not blacklisted, reverse DNS has been setup also.

For some reason sendmail and postfix are using the same port? Do I need both?

I would also like to set the web portal to a different site versus the hostname.
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Martijn Brinkers via Users < users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com><mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com<mailto:users(a)lists.djigzo.com>>> wrote:

On 06/22/2017 10:32 PM, Paul Bronson via Users wrote:
> Okay here is what I have.. Still not sure what's wrong.
>
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet
>
> I have the IP listed in my networks.
>
> So my setup goes like this:
>
> Incoming email >> firewall >> email server
>
> Cipher mail is not used for incoming, but my outgoing setup is:
>
> Outgoing email >> email server >> ciphermail server >> firewall >>
internet
>
> For some reason I think something is getting clogged up on CM
> server. I have the email server (postfix) setup with a relayhost, so
> it will
forward
> all mails to the ciphermail server. The "locality" setting on my
> server
is
> "external" - does this matter? It's behind our firewall and should
> only
be
> sending mail off from our internal mail server.
>
> I had it on in the morning and the others told me they are getting a
> lot
of
> bouncebacks. I have a feeling this is because of the SFP records but
> I
want
> to make sure the server is setup properly.
>
> The OTP you helped me with works now also, thank you!
>
> Everything is inherited from global also.

Once the email has been handled by the back-end (MPA), the email is
handed over to the MTA (Postfix). The MTA is responsible for
delivering the email. If the email is not delivered you should check
the MTA logs to see why. There can be a number of reasons why the
recipients mail server won't accept email: your IP address might be
dynamic (i.e., some consumer type ISP), there is no IP reverse name
for your IP address, the reverse IP name is not the same as the SMTP
helo name. your IP might be black-listed.

Solving this does not involve making changes in the CipherMail global
settings. The only change in CipherMail that influences delivery is
the MTA helo name.

Could you sent some MTA logs showing which mails were not delivered?

What is the IP address the CipherMail gateway is using?

Kind regards,

Martijn Brinkers

--
CipherMail email encryption

Email encryption with support for S/MIME, OpenPGP, PDF encryption and
secure webmail pull.

https://www.ciphermail.com

Twitter: http://twitter.com/CipherMail
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