disable a user complete or temporary to send mail over the gateway

Hello,

is there a way to completely exclude a user from emailing over the ciphermail-gw with one klick? I would like a checkbox in the user settings to do this.

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Why?

Isn’t it enough to either just disable the user in the webinterface (so no ciphermail processing is done on that user – ergo gw is transparent to user) or if you want to disable the user completely, then you do it in the corresponding postfix instance that is processing mail before or after ciphermail?

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Hello,

is there a way to completely exclude a user from emailing over the ciphermail-gw with one klick? I would like a checkbox in the user settings to do this.

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Matthias

Hi

Struggling to understand the actual use case here.

Do you not want a specific users emails to go through the actual gateway itself?

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Hello,

is there a way to completely exclude a user from emailing over the ciphermail-gw with one klick? I would like a checkbox in the user settings to do this.

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best regards
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Matthias

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I The user should not be able to send external mails. Internally via the internal mail server, however, the user can.

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Am Sa. 26. September 2020 12:33 CEST, Sebastian Nielsen via Users <users(a)lists.ciphermail.com> schrieb:

Why?

Isn’t it enough to either just disable the user in the webinterface (so no ciphermail processing is done on that user – ergo gw is transparent to user) or if you want to disable the user completely, then you do it in the corresponding postfix instance that is processing mail before or after ciphermail?

Från: Matthias Dort via Users <users(a)lists.ciphermail.com>
Skickat: den 26 september 2020 12:28
Till: Users(a)lists.ciphermail.com
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Hello,

is there a way to completely exclude a user from emailing over the ciphermail-gw with one klick? I would like a checkbox in the user settings to do this.

--
best regards
--------------------------------------------------------
Matthias

I The user should not be able to send external mails. Internally via the
internal mail server, however, the user can.

Since the devil is in the details, a few questions:

a) so you want to allow the user to send to some internal addresses but
not to external? How do you define internal?

b) How do you identify a sender? By envelope sender address? By From
header? Both?

c) what should happen if the blocked sender sends an email? Reject
(i.e., before queue)? or bounce (i.e., after queue)?

d) it sometimes helps to know why you need certain behavior because
there might be another solution?

Kind regards,

Martijn Brinkers

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Am Sa. 26. September 2020 12:33 CEST, Sebastian Nielsen via Users
<users(a)lists.ciphermail.com> schrieb:

Why?

Isn’t it enough to either just disable the user in the webinterface (so
no ciphermail processing is done on that user – ergo gw is transparent
to user) or if you want to disable the user completely, then you do it
in the corresponding postfix instance that is processing mail before or
after ciphermail?

*Från:* Matthias Dort via Users <users(a)lists.ciphermail.com>
*Skickat:* den 26 september 2020 12:28
*Till:* Users(a)lists.ciphermail.com
*Kopia:* Matthias Dort <md(a)dotronik.net>
*Ämne:* disable a user complete or temporary to send
mail over the gateway

Hello,

is there a way to completely exclude a user from emailing over the
ciphermail-gw with one klick? I would like a checkbox in the user
settings to do this.

--
best regards
--------------------------------------------------------
*Matthias*

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Hello, thanks for your Answer! Please read my comment.

> I The user should not be able to send external mails. Internally via the

internal mail server, however, the user can.

Since the devil is in the details, a few questions:

a) so you want to allow the user to send to some internal addresses but
not to external? How do you define internal?

Internal means for me, does not go through the Ciphermail-GW. It's only internal between my internal Malservers. The mails will be route only from, or inside one or more mailservers, so the user can mail "internal".

b) How do you identify a sender? By envelope sender address? By From
header? Both?

I think the sender should be describt in the user db with GUI of Ciphermail. At this point i want the disabled checkbox :wink:

c) what should happen if the blocked sender sends an email? Reject
(i.e., before queue)? or bounce (i.e., after queue)?

The user should receive a status mail.

d) it sometimes helps to know why you need certain behavior because
there might be another solution?

Kind regards,

Martijn Brinkers

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Am Mo. 28. September 2020 10:19 CEST, Martijn Brinkers via Users <users(a)lists.ciphermail.com> schrieb:

Am Sa. 26. September 2020 12:33 CEST, Sebastian Nielsen via Users
<users(a)lists.ciphermail.com> schrieb:

Why?

Isn’t it enough to either just disable the user in the webinterface (so
no ciphermail processing is done on that user – ergo gw is transparent
to user) or if you want to disable the user completely, then you do it
in the corresponding postfix instance that is processing mail before or
after ciphermail?

*Från:* Matthias Dort via Users <users(a)lists.ciphermail.com>
*Skickat:* den 26 september 2020 12:28
*Till:* Users(a)lists.ciphermail.com
*Kopia:* Matthias Dort <md(a)dotronik.net>
*Ämne:* disable a user complete or temporary to send
mail over the gateway

Hello,

is there a way to completely exclude a user from emailing over the
ciphermail-gw with one klick? I would like a checkbox in the user
settings to do this.

--
best regards
--------------------------------------------------------
*Matthias*

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