# Customer experience

**URL:** <https://community.ciphermail.com/t/customer-experience/23>\
**Category:** Gateway\
**Created:** [July 1, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/customer-experience/23 "2009-07-01T14:03:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![Mario\_Moder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Mario\_Moder](https://community.ciphermail.com/u/Mario_Moder)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/customer-experience/23/1 "2009-07-01T14:03:49Z")

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> Two main new features I was thinking about are:
> 
> 1. PGP support  
> 2. Client-less email encryption

Hi Martijn

I vote for number one if that means OpenPGP support (using GnuPG and its  
libraries for example) 😉

We (a german non-profit-organisation) are currently looking for a  
Free/Open Source eMail encryption solution (ca. 300 email users). So far  
I have found GEAM (deep in the GnuPG sources, only OpenPGP, no S/MIME)  
and got it running but I am concerned that it seems it is not actively  
developed or even maintained anymore. And it does not support S/MIME.  
And I have not tested it in a "production environment"...

Since most of our communication partners use OpenPGP and some use  
S/MIME, I decided to vote for OpenPGP support in Djigzo 🙂

It seems the field of free/open source eMail security gateways is  
relative small compared to client side encryption solutions. On the  
other hand there are plenty of commercial gateway solutions.

So keep up the good work!

Mario

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**Author:** ![martijn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/community.ciphermail.com/martijn/32/127_2.png) [@martijn](https://community.ciphermail.com/u/martijn)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/customer-experience/23/2 "2009-07-07T18:32:30Z")

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I'm sorry for the late reply.

\> Since most of our communication partners use OpenPGP and some use  
\> S/MIME, I decided to vote for OpenPGP support in Djigzo 🙂

The one problem I see with PGP support is that PGP has support for  
PGP/MIME and PGP inline. PGP inline is not very scalable because the  
gateway has to scan the complete message to see if there are any  
---BEGIN PGP... headers. With S/MIME and PGP/MIME the header tells you  
whether the message is signed and/or encrypted. Some clients only  
support PGP inline whereas some clients only support PGP/MIME.

Do you require both PGP inline and PGP/MIME?

\>  
\> It seems the field of free/open source eMail security gateways is  
\> relative small compared to client side encryption solutions. On the  
\> other hand there are plenty of commercial gateway solutions.  
\>  
\> So keep up the good work!

I guess there aren't a log of open source implementations because it  
requires a lot of work 🙂

Kind regards,

Martijn Brinkers

Mario Moder wrote:

> **···**
>
> > > Two main new features I was thinking about are:
> > > 
> > > 1. PGP support  
> > > 2. Client-less email encryption
> > 
> > Hi Martijn
> > 
> > I vote for number one if that means OpenPGP support (using GnuPG and its  
> > libraries for example) 😉
> > 
> > We (a german non-profit-organisation) are currently looking for a  
> > Free/Open Source eMail encryption solution (ca. 300 email users). So far  
> > I have found GEAM (deep in the GnuPG sources, only OpenPGP, no S/MIME)  
> > and got it running but I am concerned that it seems it is not actively  
> > developed or even maintained anymore. And it does not support S/MIME.  
> > And I have not tested it in a "production environment"...
> > 
> > Since most of our communication partners use OpenPGP and some use  
> > S/MIME, I decided to vote for OpenPGP support in Djigzo 🙂
> > 
> > It seems the field of free/open source eMail security gateways is  
> > relative small compared to client side encryption solutions. On the  
> > other hand there are plenty of commercial gateway solutions.
> > 
> > So keep up the good work!
> > 
> > Mario
> > 
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