# All messages being signed **URL:** \ **Category:** Gateway\ **Created:** [August 31, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/all-messages-being-signed/332 "2012-08-31T12:07:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![\_UxBoD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eb9ed0/32.png) [@\_UxBoD](https://community.ciphermail.com/u/_UxBoD)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/all-messages-being-signed/332/1 "2012-08-31T12:07:38Z")
Hello: am having a little trouble in getting the S/MIME force signing mechanism to work. I have set the encryption mode to None and defined a trigger for signing enforcement. The problem is that every single email that goes out automatically gets signed even though I have not added the trigger. How does one stop that please ? > **···** > > -- > Thanks, Phil ---
**Author:** ![martijn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/community.ciphermail.com/martijn/32/127_2.png) [@martijn](https://community.ciphermail.com/u/martijn)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/all-messages-being-signed/332/2 "2012-08-31T12:12:12Z")
Either you have unchecked "only sign when encrypt" (if unchecked, all email will be signed) or you signing trigger always matches. Kind regards, Martijn Brinkers > **···** > > On 08/31/2012 02:07 PM, Phil Daws wrote: > > > am having a little trouble in getting the S/MIME force signing > > mechanism to work. I have set the encryption mode to None and defined > > a trigger for signing enforcement. The problem is that every single > > email that goes out automatically gets signed even though I have not > > added the trigger. How does one stop that please ? > > -- > DJIGZO email encryption ---
**Author:** ![\_UxBoD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eb9ed0/32.png) [@\_UxBoD](https://community.ciphermail.com/u/_UxBoD)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/all-messages-being-signed/332/3 "2012-08-31T12:17:15Z")
ah okay ... its the former then ... anyway to override that behavior ? > **···** > > -- > Thanks, Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > On 08/31/2012 02:07 PM, Phil Daws wrote: > > \> am having a little trouble in getting the S/MIME force signing > > \> mechanism to work. I have set the encryption mode to None and > > \> defined > > \> a trigger for signing enforcement. The problem is that every single > > \> email that goes out automatically gets signed even though I have > > \> not > > \> added the trigger. How does one stop that please ? > > > > Either you have unchecked "only sign when encrypt" (if unchecked, all > > email will be signed) or you signing trigger always matches. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Martijn Brinkers > > > > -- > > DJIGZO email encryption > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)lists.djigzo.com > > [http://lists.djigzo.com/lists/listinfo/users](http://lists.djigzo.com/lists/listinfo/users) ---
**Author:** ![martijn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/community.ciphermail.com/martijn/32/127_2.png) [@martijn](https://community.ciphermail.com/u/martijn)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/all-messages-being-signed/332/4 "2012-08-31T12:21:49Z")
What do you mean with "override that behaviour"? You can check or uncheck it. If checked, message will only be signed if encrypted \*or\* if the signing trigger is set (i.e., if the signer trigger is allowed and the header matches). Oh I guess that's what you mean, whether the signing trigger overrules "only sign when encrypt". Yes it does. You can check the MPA mail flow in the appendix of the administration guide. It shows you all the steps on how email gets handled. Kind regards, Martijn > **···** > > On 08/31/2012 02:17 PM, Phil Daws wrote: > > > ah okay ... its the former then ... anyway to override that behavior ? > > -- > DJIGZO email encryption ---
**Author:** ![\_UxBoD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eb9ed0/32.png) [@\_UxBoD](https://community.ciphermail.com/u/_UxBoD)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/all-messages-being-signed/332/5 "2012-08-31T15:04:53Z")
Martijn: can you see what is wrong with this signing trigger ? (?i)Subject:\s\[sign\].\* > **···** > > -- > Thanks, Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > On 08/31/2012 02:17 PM, Phil Daws wrote: > > \> ah okay ... its the former then ... anyway to override that > > \> behavior ? > > > > What do you mean with "override that behaviour"? You can check or > > uncheck it. If checked, message will only be signed if encrypted \*or\* > > if > > the signing trigger is set (i.e., if the signer trigger is allowed > > and > > the header matches). Oh I guess that's what you mean, whether the > > signing trigger overrules "only sign when encrypt". Yes it does. You > > can > > check the MPA mail flow in the appendix of the administration guide. > > It > > shows you all the steps on how email gets handled. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Martijn > > > > -- > > DJIGZO email encryption > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)lists.djigzo.com > > [http://lists.djigzo.com/lists/listinfo/users](http://lists.djigzo.com/lists/listinfo/users) ---
**Author:** ![martijn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/community.ciphermail.com/martijn/32/127_2.png) [@martijn](https://community.ciphermail.com/u/martijn)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.ciphermail.com/t/all-messages-being-signed/332/6 "2012-08-31T15:14:39Z")
> Martijn: > > can you see what is wrong with this signing trigger ? > > (?i)Subject:\s\[sign\].\* I thought you already fixed that 🙂 From previous email about the subject: "The format for the signing trigger is not exactly a regular expression. The format is as follows (see the admin guide). HEADER-NAME:REG-EXP So, the part before the : should be the name of the header and the part after : should be a reg expression that matches the header value." See page 23 of the admin guide for more info So you should use: Note: I have not tested this Kind regards, Martijn Brinkers > **···** > > On 08/31/2012 05:04 PM, Phil Daws wrote: > Subject:(?i)\s\[sign\].\* > > -- > DJIGZO email encryption